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Well I always said I like Italy and as I'm sure you know they've done us proud, they've effectively elected Italian UKIP even we didn't do that. So what does everyone think of the crazy Italians being at it again, obviously I'm all for it as anything bad for the EU is good news, but what do you all think.

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Hopefully he allies with the Center-Left Alliance, because the center-right is led by a man who wants to "cleanse" Italy from "neighborhood to neighborhood, town center to town center". And the Center-Right wants to put Silvio Berlusconi in power, despite being banned from public office until 2019. So yea...good luck Italia....

 

 

BTW, John Oliver threw his hat in the ring for Prime Minister, since there is no explicit provision that says a non-citizen cannot be PM

 

 

Why does Europe's wang have to be so insane like America's wang....


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If I were Italians I would be more worried about the Fascists than the immigrants. Only one has a proven track record of destroying countries. 


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They're on the streets everywhere stealing and such in Italy, it's mental, it's not just randomly the number one concern bad a joke, they're covered in a thin sheen of refugee's now Italians are as a whole fairly racist so that's not a good mix. Even the left is racist, great country as I've said before best in continental Europe.

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If I were Italians I would be more worried about the Fascists than the immigrants. Only one has a proven track record of destroying countries.


Southern European countries love Fascism, before Fascism Portuguese and Spanish didn't even have shoes, now look at them, functional states. Even places like Yugoslavia did quite well, you need to boss these kinds of people around. They're lazy.

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Sometimes democracy needs a kick in the ass by some nice, friendly, fascism. Italy is disaffected right now because there are no jobs for the youth, no hope in sight of a competent government and no hope for the country as a whole.

This is because the Italian system was set up to be weak on purpose due to fascism. When Reinzi (I think) tried to reform the system to make it more efficient and able to run the country, it was rejected.

Add to that mix the retarded unions who protect their workers and the insane level of rights they get. Thus limiting hiring of permanent workers - most younger employees are short term contract employees - companies don’t want to hire full time permanent workers because of said unions.

Finally - red tape. Partly due to unions. Makes business investment impossible.

Get a nice, strong leader to cut down the unions, cut the red tape and cut through the bullshit. And when he starts his excesses string him up hang him from a bridge.

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Get a nice, strong leader to cut down the unions, cut the red tape and cut through the bullshit. And when he starts his excesses string him up hang him from a bridge.

He'll make the trains run on time! Oh wait...


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Well let's be honest they're not fascists, they're just a normal party which doesn't like Muslims or the EU. Both very rational decisions

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Resorting to Fascism because of immigrants is like burning your house down to get rid of bed bugs. Fascism is just a collection of racist bootlickers who sacrifice their own person freedoms for imaginary protection, from irrational fears. A day in the world where Fascism exists is a day worse than it could have been. The goal of any Fascist government is to create nonexistent fear so that cowards and bootlickers will sacrifice their manhood, so some populist asshole can live a life of luxury while everyone else suffers. I am sure that if we took a look into the Italian government, there are rational and pragmatic ideas being proposed, but they are being drowned out by the screams of emasculated fascists drowning in their own vaginal secretions. 



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https://www.opendemo...talian-politics

 

They have to break the patriarchy. Women are too smart to fall for fascism. Get some of these spineless men out of their government, including the corrupt bootlickers, and they may be able to get something done. 



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Nah that Five Star is like some weird direct democracy group, they have online votes on all party policy and MPs can only serve s term to stop them getting corrupt. It's just all Italians hate Muslims, even most lefty ones, so when you get people to vote for what they want they say "no muslims." You also see refugees bloody everywhere in Italy, I saw many trying to sell clearly stolen nick nack's. You'd have to be a moron to want the.

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Europe's real problem is these Russian backed right wing organizations who constantly sensationalize and exaggerate the immigration problem. The Russians want to break the EU, they want to break NATO and when they do, Europeans will be much worse off. Immigrants want to come to Europe for a better quality of life. Russia wants to ensure that all Europeans have the same bleak existence as their own miserable population. Muslims maybe have stolen some things, been an annoyance on the streets, engaged in some alleged sexual misconduct from here to there, but they have yet to invade two sovereign nations or interfere in the elections of multiple western countries. Immigrants are like fleas, Russia is like cancer. A giant malignant tumor marring the future of human civilization. 



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You could dislike Russia and not let the Muslims in as well though, surely that's better!

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That's the problem. If you want to start an anti-Muslim political group over there, you suddenly find your self funded with Russian dark money and an army of Russian troll bots to spread your sensationalized propaganda. Next thing you know, you are indebted to the Russians, and they start annexing more of Ukraine, or take over Georgia. Then they go for the Baltic states. Then when the UN meets to put sanctions on the Russians for being a belligerent nation, half of the worlds leaders are in power because of the Russians, so they can't rightly put sanctions on them can they? What's the bigger geopolitical threat? A bunch of dirt poor starving immigrants who have nothing in their name besides the shirts on their back, or a massive aggressive nation with nuclear weapons? The sanctions were working, the Russian economy was bad enough that they may have been on the verge of revolution, and then on the brink of collapse, they find a way out. Take advantage of racist right wing organizations in the West and use them to their advantage. One of the major sources of immigrants is Syria, and the Russians are the ones working to make the country uninhabitable. They are blowing up the Syrians houses and destroying their food and way of life, so their only option is to die or move to Europe. 

 

I agree, half the story is a problem with Islam as a religion. If you give Muslims a chance to pick their own religion, they always chose some form of theocracy. Looking back, all of those violent dictators like Gaddafi and Saddam were needed to help drag their people out of the bronze age. 



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Russia literally just carried out a biological terrorist attack on British citizens and the right wing propaganda machine is basically silent. If the perpetrators had been brown skinned and of middle eastern decent, social media would have went nuts. Its pure sensationalism. I don't know many right-wing news sites in Britain, so I had to go with the American news. Fox just criticizes Theresa May, and nobody else mentions it. How is it, that Russia can commit a biological terrorist attack on British citizens and nobody bats an eye? That is the reason why we attacked Saddam, and the reason why we will periodically bomb Syria. But when Russia does it, nobody gives a shit. Because the Russian troll bots are out spreading misinformation and trying to distract us by spreading sensationalized bullshit about Muslims. 

 

You think Winston Churchill would have put up with this bullshit? King Richard the Lionheart? Elizabeth I? Sir Francis Drake? Do you think a United States President with any balls would let our greatest ally in the world get attacked like that and not give a shit? Teddy Roosevelt would have cockwhipped Putin's head off. 

 

The Russians have consistently backed these weak minded pussies, who only are popular because they are racist, so they can get away with anything and nobody gives a shit. 



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Resorting to Fascism because of immigrants is like burning your house down to get rid of bed bugs. Fascism is just a collection of racist bootlickers who sacrifice their own person freedoms for imaginary protection, from irrational fears. A day in the world where Fascism exists is a day worse than it could have been. The goal of any Fascist government is to create nonexistent fear so that cowards and bootlickers will sacrifice their manhood, so some populist asshole can live a life of luxury while everyone else suffers. I am sure that if we took a look into the Italian government, there are rational and pragmatic ideas being proposed, but they are being drowned out by the screams of emasculated fascists drowning in their own vaginal secretions. 

A lot of people dream of being that populist asshole.


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Russia literally just carried out a biological terrorist attack on British citizens and the right wing propaganda machine is basically silent. If the perpetrators had been brown skinned and of middle eastern decent, social media would have went nuts. Its pure sensationalism. I don't know many right-wing news sites in Britain, so I had to go with the American news. Fox just criticizes Theresa May, and nobody else mentions it. How is it, that Russia can commit a biological terrorist attack on British citizens and nobody bats an eye? That is the reason why we attacked Saddam, and the reason why we will periodically bomb Syria. But when Russia does it, nobody gives a shit. Because the Russian troll bots are out spreading misinformation and trying to distract us by spreading sensationalized bullshit about Muslims. 

 

You think Winston Churchill would have put up with this bullshit? King Richard the Lionheart? Elizabeth I? Sir Francis Drake? Do you think a United States President with any balls would let our greatest ally in the world get attacked like that and not give a shit? Teddy Roosevelt would have cockwhipped Putin's head off. 

 

The Russians have consistently backed these weak minded pussies, who only are popular because they are racist, so they can get away with anything and nobody gives a shit. 

Iraq and Syria don't have nukes, Russia does.


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Exactly. We gotta start treating Russians like these Fascists treat Muslims. Run 24 hour sensationalist footage of any Eastern European looking person committing crimes. "Rapist Russian" strikes Cambridge! Spattered across the front page of the news paper. Who cares if the dude is really from Croatia, the ends justify the means right? Boycott Russian businesses, and products that come from Russia. Invest in alternative fuel sources so nobody needs to buy their oil anymore. Block immigration of Russians from your country, and deport the rest of them because they are most likely either terrorists, con-artists, hackers, or spies. Get these conspiracy theorists to start some tin foil hat conspiracies that Putin runs a underage kiddie porn ring in a pizza place, and that he is putting chemicals in the water that are turning the frogs gay. Russia is the reason why Europe is having this migrant problem, so Europeans need to blame the Russians, not the immigrants. Russia has nothing to fear from immigrants anyway. Their economy sucks and they live in a frozen depressing hellscape. You couldn't get any war weary immigrant to want to move to that gigantic shithole.

 

I say we nuke them anyway. Putin would never see it coming if Trump did it. It would be the ultimate stab in the back. Et tu Brute?  The worst thing that could happen is that human civilization is wiped out, but I mean Russia would be too, so its is kind of a win. You gotta think about future generations. Does anyone want their kids growing up in a world where Russia exists? 


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That's the problem. If you want to start an anti-Muslim political group over there, you suddenly find your self funded with Russian dark money and an army of Russian troll bots to spread your sensationalized propaganda. Next thing you know, you are indebted to the Russians, and they start annexing more of Ukraine, or take over Georgia. Then they go for the Baltic states. Then when the UN meets to put sanctions on the Russians for being a belligerent nation, half of the worlds leaders are in power because of the Russians, so they can't rightly put sanctions on them can they? What's the bigger geopolitical threat? A bunch of dirt poor starving immigrants who have nothing in their name besides the shirts on their back, or a massive aggressive nation with nuclear weapons? The sanctions were working, the Russian economy was bad enough that they may have been on the verge of revolution, and then on the brink of collapse, they find a way out. Take advantage of racist right wing organizations in the West and use them to their advantage. One of the major sources of immigrants is Syria, and the Russians are the ones working to make the country uninhabitable. They are blowing up the Syrians houses and destroying their food and way of life, so their only option is to die or move to Europe. 

 

I agree, half the story is a problem with Islam as a religion. If you give Muslims a chance to pick their own religion, they always chose some form of theocracy. Looking back, all of those violent dictators like Gaddafi and Saddam were needed to help drag their people out of the bronze age. 

 

People will worry about an exact day to day problem, having Muslims steal your wallet, and the more conceptual threat of an entity like Russia will always be more illusive. Also the refugee problem from Syria and such is by no means Russia's fault, its ours particularly UK/France/USA for blowing Libya to shit, everything basically traces back to that and Syria has been stabilised more than damaged by the Russians, an Islamist win has always been the worse option for us in the west Libya is the proof of that.

 

Regardless as for the whole assassin thing I don't think people seem to really care as Russia has done this before and it's still tight on the national psyche and nothing happened then in response, so now no one expects much of a response again as why would they have expected the game to change? Personally I've said it before and I'll say it again, ally with Russia and split Europe down the Rhine River, get to go to Malaga and not have to change money into stupid Euros.



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Anyone can steal your wallet. They don't have to be Muslim to want to commit petty crime, and the only reason why it is a day to day problem is because people sensationalize it. If there are 100 wallets stolen, and 10 of the wallet thieves are Muslims, all you will hear about are those ten wallet thieves. Only the Russians can inadvertently kill you with a nerve toxin because you happened to be in the same store as somebody on Putin's hit list. Once again you seem to care more about minor annoyances than mortal danger. Somebody steals your wallet, it ruins your day. If somebody poisons you with a nerve toxin, you suffer through or possibly die from a very painful death. It is an annoyance to you to have to convert your money to Euros when you go to Spain. You are very likely to be killed in a hypothetical war where you are allies with the Russians. if not, the uprising to overthrow the government who made the decision, to become allies with the greatest world pariah of our age. 






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